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Why WAS the 6th Doctor era SO BAD?!
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Ubiquitous
2025-01-10 09:32:56 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that bad? Did Colin
Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the Doctor?

00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion



Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series. This vid is interesting,
but hearing the narrator say "sick doctor" got old fast.

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The Doctor
2025-01-10 14:50:28 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that bad? Did Colin
Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the Doctor?
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series. This vid is interesting,
but hearing the narrator say "sick doctor" got old fast.
Flame Grade , the Thatcher stooge, for this mess.
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Blueshirt
2025-01-10 15:44:59 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
Flame Grade , the Thatcher stooge, for this mess.
The Sixth Doctor was the symptom, JNT was the illness and
Michael Grade was the cure!

Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down by
everything around him.
The Doctor
2025-01-10 16:37:54 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
Flame Grade , the Thatcher stooge, for this mess.
The Sixth Doctor was the symptom, JNT was the illness and
Michael Grade was the cure!
The ither way around about illness and cure.
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Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down by
everything around him.
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Your Name
2025-01-10 21:04:43 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
Flame Grade , the Thatcher stooge, for this mess.
The Sixth Doctor was the symptom, JNT was the illness and
Michael Grade was the cure!
Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down by
everything around him.
Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor Sylvester
McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor. Along with McGann's
Americanised nonsense, they are probably the three worst Doctors prior
to the Politically Correct idiocy more recently.
Blueshirt
2025-01-10 22:55:35 UTC
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Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down
by everything around him.
Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor
Sylvester McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor.
Well there's something I have never heard said before. The
Seventh Doctor like Hercule Poirot! Captain Hastings would have
a heart attack if he read that!

I can't say that I see it myself...
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Along with McGann's Americanised nonsense, they are probably
the three worst Doctors prior to the Politically Correct
idiocy more recently.
The three worst Doctors? Hmmm... I'd certainly go with Sylvester
McCoy... and solely based on the TVM, Paul McGann. But I don't
know if I could split the rest of them enough to have one as the
outright third worst, as they all have their pluses and minuses.
I suppose I could just cheat and say Richard E. Grant! (After
his cameo in S1/S14 it's topical!)

Yeah, I'm happy enough to go with that...
The Doctor
2025-01-11 01:13:38 UTC
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Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down
by everything around him.
Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor
Sylvester McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor.
Well there's something I have never heard said before. The
Seventh Doctor like Hercule Poirot! Captain Hastings would have
a heart attack if he read that!
I can't say that I see it myself...
Post by Your Name
Along with McGann's Americanised nonsense, they are probably
the three worst Doctors prior to the Politically Correct
idiocy more recently.
The three worst Doctors? Hmmm... I'd certainly go with Sylvester
McCoy... and solely based on the TVM, Paul McGann. But I don't
know if I could split the rest of them enough to have one as the
outright third worst, as they all have their pluses and minuses.
I suppose I could just cheat and say Richard E. Grant! (After
his cameo in S1/S14 it's topical!)
Yeah, I'm happy enough to go with that...
Still the war between JN-t and management was of no help.
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2025-01-11 06:25:19 UTC
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Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down
by everything around him.
Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor
Sylvester McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor.
Well there's something I have never heard said before. The
Seventh Doctor like Hercule Poirot! Captain Hastings would have
a heart attack if he read that!
I can't say that I see it myself...
I should probably have said a (then) modern day Poirot. Sylvester McCoy
is a funny little man who swaggered around using that umbrella like a
walking stick ... all that was missing was the twee little mustache and
the Belgian accent. :-)
The Doctor
2025-01-11 13:05:09 UTC
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Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down
by everything around him.
Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor
Sylvester McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor.
Well there's something I have never heard said before. The
Seventh Doctor like Hercule Poirot! Captain Hastings would have
a heart attack if he read that!
I can't say that I see it myself...
I should probably have said a (then) modern day Poirot. Sylvester McCoy
is a funny little man who swaggered around using that umbrella like a
walking stick ... all that was missing was the twee little mustache and
the Belgian accent. :-)
This is DW! Scots will do!
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Blueshirt
2025-01-11 20:25:54 UTC
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Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor
Sylvester McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor.
Well there's something I have never heard said before. The
Seventh Doctor like Hercule Poirot! Captain Hastings would
have a heart attack if he read that!
I can't say that I see it myself...
I should probably have said a (then) modern day Poirot.
Sylvester McCoy is a funny little man who swaggered around
using that umbrella like a walking stick ... all that was
missing was the twee little mustache and the Belgian accent.
:-)
I think I prefer Poirot... ;-)
The Doctor
2025-01-12 04:15:18 UTC
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Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor
Sylvester McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor.
Well there's something I have never heard said before. The
Seventh Doctor like Hercule Poirot! Captain Hastings would
have a heart attack if he read that!
I can't say that I see it myself...
I should probably have said a (then) modern day Poirot.
Sylvester McCoy is a funny little man who swaggered around
using that umbrella like a walking stick ... all that was
missing was the twee little mustache and the Belgian accent.
:-)
I think I prefer Poirot... ;-)
Mercy.
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Blueshirt
2025-01-12 20:59:04 UTC
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I should probably have said a (then) modern day Poirot.
Sylvester McCoy is a funny little man who swaggered around
using that umbrella like a walking stick ... all that was
missing was the twee little mustache and the Belgian accent.
:-)
I think I prefer Poirot... ;-)
Mercy.
Poirot would actually say, merci mon ami.
The Doctor
2025-01-12 21:03:41 UTC
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I should probably have said a (then) modern day Poirot.
Sylvester McCoy is a funny little man who swaggered around
using that umbrella like a walking stick ... all that was
missing was the twee little mustache and the Belgian accent.
:-)
I think I prefer Poirot... ;-)
Mercy.
Poirot would actually say, merci mon ami.
Je sais.
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 01:11:45 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
Flame Grade , the Thatcher stooge, for this mess.
The Sixth Doctor was the symptom, JNT was the illness and
Michael Grade was the cure!
Colin Baker had no chance. A great actor seriously let-down by
everything around him.
Colin Baker was pretty bad, but then so was his successor Sylvester
McCoy with his Poirot-ised version of the Doctor. Along with McGann's
Americanised nonsense, they are probably the three worst Doctors prior
to the Politically Correct idiocy more recently.
The problem was a BBC wanting to purge its history.
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Blueshirt
2025-01-10 15:30:55 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the
Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth
by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to
strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma]
didn't help his cause either.

It was all downhill after that...
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00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's
era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally
had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think
McCoy was up to the task.

Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the
BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were
not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their
hands by turning the show in to a pantomime.
The Doctor
2025-01-10 16:36:42 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the
Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth
by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to
strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma]
didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's
era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally
had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think
McCoy was up to the task.
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the
BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were
not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their
hands by turning the show in to a pantomime.
And Michael Grade, Thatcher's Stooge.
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John Hall
2025-01-10 18:28:23 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the
Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth
by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to
strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma]
didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and scriptwriters. An
"edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone who, for all his quirks,
should be an unashamedly heroic character. (At least post the First
Doctor's early days.)
Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's
era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally
had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think
McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the
BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were
not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their
hands by turning the show in to a pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not that
that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her
character was written.

I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final series,
and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories, with a couple
of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The
Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it
was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that
the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
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Blueshirt
2025-01-10 21:07:48 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at
birth by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying
to strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin
Dilemma] didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and
scriptwriters. An "edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone
who, for all his quirks, should be an unashamedly heroic
character. (At least post the First Doctor's early days.)
Colin Baker has shown what he can do as the Sixth Doctor in the
Big Finish Doctor Who audios... I know they are not part of the
televised canon but the Sixth Doctor audio adventures are some
of the best stories that Big Finish have produced. So whatever
the failings of the Sixth Doctor's TV era were, it wasn't Colin
Baker!
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Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth
Doctor's era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy
generally had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I
don't think McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.

If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
Post by John Hall
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
that JNT would have been able to give them the production
quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
The Doctor
2025-01-11 01:12:33 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at
birth by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying
to strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin
Dilemma] didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and
scriptwriters. An "edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone
who, for all his quirks, should be an unashamedly heroic
character. (At least post the First Doctor's early days.)
Colin Baker has shown what he can do as the Sixth Doctor in the
Big Finish Doctor Who audios... I know they are not part of the
televised canon but the Sixth Doctor audio adventures are some
of the best stories that Big Finish have produced. So whatever
the failings of the Sixth Doctor's TV era were, it wasn't Colin
Baker!
Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth
Doctor's era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy
generally had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I
don't think McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.
If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
Post by John Hall
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
that JNT would have been able to give them the production
quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
I like all Doctors except for the Timeless Child.
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2025-01-11 02:00:27 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at
birth by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying
to strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin
Dilemma] didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and
scriptwriters. An "edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone
who, for all his quirks, should be an unashamedly heroic
character. (At least post the First Doctor's early days.)
Colin Baker has shown what he can do as the Sixth Doctor in the
Big Finish Doctor Who audios... I know they are not part of the
televised canon but the Sixth Doctor audio adventures are some
of the best stories that Big Finish have produced. So whatever
the failings of the Sixth Doctor's TV era were, it wasn't Colin
Baker!
Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth
Doctor's era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy
generally had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I
don't think McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.
If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
Post by John Hall
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
that JNT would have been able to give them the production
quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
I like all Doctors except for the Timeless Child.
Even Whittaker?

Doctor Who ended in 2017!

The Timeless Child is a monstrosity and not the Doctor.
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 03:44:02 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
the Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at
birth by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying
to strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin
Dilemma] didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and
scriptwriters. An "edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone
who, for all his quirks, should be an unashamedly heroic
character. (At least post the First Doctor's early days.)
Colin Baker has shown what he can do as the Sixth Doctor in the
Big Finish Doctor Who audios... I know they are not part of the
televised canon but the Sixth Doctor audio adventures are some
of the best stories that Big Finish have produced. So whatever
the failings of the Sixth Doctor's TV era were, it wasn't Colin
Baker!
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Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth
Doctor's era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy
generally had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I
don't think McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.
If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
Post by John Hall
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
that JNT would have been able to give them the production
quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
I like all Doctors except for the Timeless Child.
Even Whittaker?
Retcon the Timeless Child! You know me!
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Doctor Who ended in 2017!
The Timeless Child is a monstrosity and not the Doctor.
Exactly!
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The True Doctor
2025-01-11 01:59:22 UTC
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I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
Sylvester McCoy was better than Jodie Whittaker and Ncuti Gatwa by a
thousand miles.
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Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
Ace was way better than Bonnie Langford. It should have been Ace from
the start. Mel never sounded credible as a computer programmer.
Post by Blueshirt
it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.
Ace was JNT's attempt to do Leela, but Leela worked because she was
intelligent and lacked being educated, so the Doctor decided to teach
her and she was willing to learn. Ace was a retard that dropped out of
school and wanted to learn nothing other than trying to blow up the
class room. She would have been a better character if she was from a
dystopian future were kids had to live on the streets and had no access
to education unless they found an old discarded school book from the
past discard somewhere. Then you couldn't blame her for acting like an
uneducated moron. Leela didn't act like a moron because she learned to
live in the jungle.
Post by Blueshirt
If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
Post by John Hall
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
There were mostly full of stupid ideas such as Delta and the Bannermen
and filled with idiotic stunt casting like Ken Dodd and Hale and Pace in
Survival. Also the degenerate retard JNT wanted to turn Doctor Who into
a soap opera and this alienated half the audience.
Post by Blueshirt
that JNT would have been able to give them the production
quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
He's best performance was in the TVM. That's how he should have been
written from the start. McCoy was perfectly capable of taking on the
part as can be seen from his appearances on stage and in The Hobbit, but
he was given shit scripts and shit stories like Paradise Towers and The
Happiness Patrol which weren't written for him properly.
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 03:43:27 UTC
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I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
Sylvester McCoy was better than Jodie Whittaker and Ncuti Gatwa by a
thousand miles.
A true perspective!
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Post by John Hall
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
Ace was way better than Bonnie Langford. It should have been Ace from
the start. Mel never sounded credible as a computer programmer.
Post by Blueshirt
it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.
Ace was JNT's attempt to do Leela, but Leela worked because she was
intelligent and lacked being educated, so the Doctor decided to teach
her and she was willing to learn. Ace was a retard that dropped out of
school and wanted to learn nothing other than trying to blow up the
class room. She would have been a better character if she was from a
dystopian future were kids had to live on the streets and had no access
to education unless they found an old discarded school book from the
past discard somewhere. Then you couldn't blame her for acting like an
uneducated moron. Leela didn't act like a moron because she learned to
live in the jungle.
Post by Blueshirt
If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
Post by John Hall
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
There were mostly full of stupid ideas such as Delta and the Bannermen
and filled with idiotic stunt casting like Ken Dodd and Hale and Pace in
Survival. Also the degenerate retard JNT wanted to turn Doctor Who into
a soap opera and this alienated half the audience.
Post by Blueshirt
that JNT would have been able to give them the production
quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
He's best performance was in the TVM. That's how he should have been
written from the start. McCoy was perfectly capable of taking on the
part as can be seen from his appearances on stage and in The Hobbit, but
he was given shit scripts and shit stories like Paradise Towers and The
Happiness Patrol which weren't written for him properly.
Hear! Hear!!
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 01:10:48 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the
Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth
by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to
strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma]
didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and scriptwriters. An
"edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone who, for all his quirks,
should be an unashamedly heroic character. (At least post the First
Doctor's early days.)
Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's
era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally
had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think
McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the
BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were
not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their
hands by turning the show in to a pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not that
that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her
character was written.
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final series,
and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories, with a couple
of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The
Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it
was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that
the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
Shows that Grade and Powell were clueless.
Post by John Hall
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will hardly mind anything else."
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2025-01-11 21:38:52 UTC
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Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight
against the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks
and Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me,
JNT played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
again down to the way her character was written.
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled
when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that
the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it
against "Coronation Street".
Shows that Grade and Powell were clueless.
No Dave, it doesn't. It just shows that they didn't think much
of Doctor Who and thought that the BBC could make better TV
programmes for the amount of money they were spending on Doctor
Who.
The True Doctor
2025-01-11 01:46:57 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the
Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth
by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to
strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma]
didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and scriptwriters. An
"edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone who, for all his quirks,
should be an unashamedly heroic character. (At least post the First
Doctor's early days.)
Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's
era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally
had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think
McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the
BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were
not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their
hands by turning the show in to a pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not that
that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her
character was written.
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final series,
and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories, with a couple
Battlefield was a big improvement over the previous McCoy episodes and
the best of his final series. I was expecting him to last 3 more series
especially then things were improving.
Post by John Hall
of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The
Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it
That would be Keith Topping et. al. I have the original on my shelf. Did
it ever get a second edition?
Post by John Hall
was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that
the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
That was during Peter Davison's tenure. McCoy returned to Saturdays.
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2025-01-11 03:41:33 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the
Doctor?
Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth
by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to
strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma]
didn't help his cause either.
It was all downhill after that...
Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and scriptwriters. An
"edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone who, for all his quirks,
should be an unashamedly heroic character. (At least post the First
Doctor's early days.)
Post by Blueshirt
Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's
era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally
had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think
McCoy was up to the task.
I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
Post by Blueshirt
Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the
BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were
not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their
hands by turning the show in to a pantomime.
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not that
that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her
character was written.
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final series,
and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories, with a couple
Battlefield was a big improvement over the previous McCoy episodes and
the best of his final series. I was expecting him to last 3 more series
especially then things were improving.
Exactly! Just that Powell ws out of touch with the audience.
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Post by John Hall
of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The
Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it
That would be Keith Topping et. al. I have the original on my shelf. Did
it ever get a second edition?
Post by John Hall
was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that
the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
That was during Peter Davison's tenure. McCoy returned to Saturdays.
A better idea!
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2025-01-11 10:34:32 UTC
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Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not
that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her
character was written.
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final
series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories,
with a couple
Battlefield was a big improvement over the previous McCoy episodes and
the best of his final series. I was expecting him to last 3 more series
especially then things were improving.
Post by John Hall
of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The
Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it
That would be Keith Topping et. al. I have the original on my shelf.
Did it ever get a second edition?
Not that I'm aware of, but I wasn't looking for one. Given that it came
out fairly early in the interregnum, there would have had to have been a
long delay before there would be any new material to put in it, and by
then I expect the authors would have moved on to other things.
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Post by John Hall
was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear
that the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
That was during Peter Davison's tenure. McCoy returned to Saturdays.
My memory is probably at fault, then.

The BBC have had rather a history of cancelling science fiction and
fantasy series just when they were improving and/or starting to get
enough depth to become really interesting. They did it with Tripods,
which had taken over the DW Saturday teatime slot, then Merlin, and most
recently Atlantis.
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 13:06:34 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not
that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her
character was written.
I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final
series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories,
with a couple
Battlefield was a big improvement over the previous McCoy episodes and
the best of his final series. I was expecting him to last 3 more series
especially then things were improving.
Post by John Hall
of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The
Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it
That would be Keith Topping et. al. I have the original on my shelf.
Did it ever get a second edition?
Not that I'm aware of, but I wasn't looking for one. Given that it came
out fairly early in the interregnum, there would have had to have been a
long delay before there would be any new material to put in it, and by
then I expect the authors would have moved on to other things.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by John Hall
was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear
that the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
"Coronation Street".
That was during Peter Davison's tenure. McCoy returned to Saturdays.
My memory is probably at fault, then.
The BBC have had rather a history of cancelling science fiction and
fantasy series just when they were improving and/or starting to get
enough depth to become really interesting. They did it with Tripods,
which had taken over the DW Saturday teatime slot, then Merlin, and most
recently Atlantis.
Talk about clueless!
Post by John Hall
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The True Doctor
2025-01-11 01:41:01 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that bad? Did Colin
Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the Doctor?
The degenerate imbecile John Nathan-Turner decided to make the character
instantly unlikeable by having him trying to kill Peri the moment after
he regenerated and then do everything possible to get her killed by
others, eventually getting her killed for nothing in Trial of a Timelord
and then finally realizing that allowing this to happen would kill off
the entire franchise, so reconned her death in the final episode.

This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.

Stupid degenerate retards the both of them.

Michael Grade wouldn't have put the show on hiatus if the 6th Doctor had
been made a likeable character from the start.

The idea of making the Doctor look like he was the villain was already
tried with Tom Baker in The Invasion of Time, and it didn't work there,
so why did the retards try it with Colin Baker?
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00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series. This vid is interesting,
but hearing the narrator say "sick doctor" got old fast.
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 03:40:26 UTC
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What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that bad? Did Colin
Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the Doctor?
The degenerate imbecile John Nathan-Turner decided to make the character
instantly unlikeable by having him trying to kill Peri the moment after
he regenerated and then do everything possible to get her killed by
others, eventually getting her killed for nothing in Trial of a Timelord
and then finally realizing that allowing this to happen would kill off
the entire franchise, so reconned her death in the final episode.
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
Stupid degenerate retards the both of them.
Michael Grade wouldn't have put the show on hiatus if the 6th Doctor had
been made a likeable character from the start.
The idea of making the Doctor look like he was the villain was already
tried with Tom Baker in The Invasion of Time, and it didn't work there,
so why did the retards try it with Colin Baker?
Someone check Grade's memos.
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Post by Ubiquitous
00:00- Introduction
00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
02:12- The Twin Dilemma
04:23- Character
07:05- Season 22
12:00- Hiatus
13:33- Season 23
16:56- The Aftermath
18:36- Conclusion
http://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg
Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series. This vid is interesting,
but hearing the narrator say "sick doctor" got old fast.
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2025-01-11 10:41:02 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
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The Doctor
2025-01-11 13:05:38 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
The Stone Angel effect.
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2025-01-11 18:09:20 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from going
there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is a retard if he
expects us to believe this nonsense because he's too lazy to write a
coherent story.

Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had suffer a
terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor? Rose trapped in
another dimension, Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son, Amy and Rory trapped in the past, Clara dead,
Bill dead, River Song dead. That just leaves Martha and Captain Jack.
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Blueshirt
2025-01-11 23:52:04 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron
Steven Moffat for the character of the 12th Doctor and
that finally killed the series off completely after
Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making both
characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as
Capaldi. Oh, and don't forgery he effectively killed off
Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being
able to rescue Amy and Rory because for some tenuous
reason he couldn't visit NY at the particular time they'd
been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could visit
some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
message to be sent to them, telling them to take a train
to, say, Chicago, where he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they
could have brought some up and explained why they wouldn’t
work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from
going there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is
a retard if he expects us to believe this nonsense because
he's too lazy to write a coherent story.
Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had
suffer a terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor?
They'd say emotional drama!
Post by The True Doctor
Rose trapped in another dimension,
But Rose is with [a version of] the man she loves isn't she?
Plus she has her Mum and alternate universe Dad with her... so
hardly a terrible fate.
Post by The True Doctor
Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son,
You forgot "hot"... (It seems some people found Rose Noble hot.)
Post by The True Doctor
Amy and Rory trapped in the past,
But together. So again, not that terrible. If the world has to
end, I'm sure being together is a very comforting feeling for a
husband and wife.
Post by The True Doctor
Clara dead, Bill dead,
Sad, but necessary.


River Song
Post by The True Doctor
River Song dead.
Please send Big Finish an e-mail and tell them that! Alex
Kingston must have a contract with them that says River Sto turn
up in EVERY Doctor Who range... Rivewer
Post by The True Doctor
That just leaves Martha and Captain Jack.
What about Mickey? Poor Mickey... always treated like the tin
dog.
Your Name
2025-01-12 04:33:48 UTC
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<snip>
Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron
Steven Moffat for the character of the 12th Doctor and
that finally killed the series off completely after
Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making both
characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as
Capaldi. Oh, and don't forgery he effectively killed off
Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being
able to rescue Amy and Rory because for some tenuous
reason he couldn't visit NY at the particular time they'd
been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could visit
some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
message to be sent to them, telling them to take a train
to, say, Chicago, where he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they
could have brought some up and explained why they wouldn’t
work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from
going there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is
a retard if he expects us to believe this nonsense because
he's too lazy to write a coherent story.
Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had
suffer a terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor?
They'd say emotional drama!
Post by The True Doctor
Rose trapped in another dimension,
But Rose is with [a version of] the man she loves isn't she?
Well, a clone of teh man she loved ... maybe "near enough is good
enough" for her.
Post by Blueshirt
Plus she has her Mum and alternate universe Dad with her... so
hardly a terrible fate.
Post by The True Doctor
Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son,
You forgot "hot"... (It seems some people found Rose Noble hot.)
"Rose Noble" ;-)
Post by Blueshirt
Post by The True Doctor
Amy and Rory trapped in the past,
But together. So again, not that terrible. If the world has to
end, I'm sure being together is a very comforting feeling for a
husband and wife.
Post by The True Doctor
Clara dead, Bill dead,
Sad, but necessary.
River Song
Post by The True Doctor
River Song dead.
Please send Big Finish an e-mail and tell them that! Alex
Kingston must have a contract with them that says River Sto turn
up in EVERY Doctor Who range... Rivewer
"River Sto". ;-)
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Post by The True Doctor
That just leaves Martha and Captain Jack.
What about Mickey? Poor Mickey... always treated like the tin
dog.
"Metal Mickey" was a different UK show. ;-)
The Doctor
2025-01-12 12:39:20 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron
Steven Moffat for the character of the 12th Doctor and
that finally killed the series off completely after
Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making both
characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as
Capaldi. Oh, and don't forgery he effectively killed off
Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being
able to rescue Amy and Rory because for some tenuous
reason he couldn't visit NY at the particular time they'd
been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could visit
some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
message to be sent to them, telling them to take a train
to, say, Chicago, where he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they
could have brought some up and explained why they wouldn’t
work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from
going there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is
a retard if he expects us to believe this nonsense because
he's too lazy to write a coherent story.
Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had
suffer a terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor?
They'd say emotional drama!
Post by The True Doctor
Rose trapped in another dimension,
But Rose is with [a version of] the man she loves isn't she?
Well, a clone of teh man she loved ... maybe "near enough is good
enough" for her.
Post by Blueshirt
Plus she has her Mum and alternate universe Dad with her... so
hardly a terrible fate.
Post by The True Doctor
Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son,
You forgot "hot"... (It seems some people found Rose Noble hot.)
"Rose Noble" ;-)
Indeed!
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Post by The True Doctor
Amy and Rory trapped in the past,
But together. So again, not that terrible. If the world has to
end, I'm sure being together is a very comforting feeling for a
husband and wife.
Post by The True Doctor
Clara dead, Bill dead,
Sad, but necessary.
River Song
Post by The True Doctor
River Song dead.
Please send Big Finish an e-mail and tell them that! Alex
Kingston must have a contract with them that says River Sto turn
up in EVERY Doctor Who range... Rivewer
"River Sto". ;-)
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Post by The True Doctor
That just leaves Martha and Captain Jack.
What about Mickey? Poor Mickey... always treated like the tin
dog.
"Metal Mickey" was a different UK show. ;-)
Rock on!
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2025-01-12 04:45:59 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron
Steven Moffat for the character of the 12th Doctor and
that finally killed the series off completely after
Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making both
characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as
Capaldi. Oh, and don't forgery he effectively killed off
Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being
able to rescue Amy and Rory because for some tenuous
reason he couldn't visit NY at the particular time they'd
been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could visit
some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
message to be sent to them, telling them to take a train
to, say, Chicago, where he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they
could have brought some up and explained why they wouldn’t
work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from
going there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is
a retard if he expects us to believe this nonsense because
he's too lazy to write a coherent story.
Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had
suffer a terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor?
They'd say emotional drama!
Post by The True Doctor
Rose trapped in another dimension,
But Rose is with [a version of] the man she loves isn't she?
Plus she has her Mum and alternate universe Dad with her... so
hardly a terrible fate.
Post by The True Doctor
Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son,
You forgot "hot"... (It seems some people found Rose Noble hot.)
Post by The True Doctor
Amy and Rory trapped in the past,
But together. So again, not that terrible. If the world has to
end, I'm sure being together is a very comforting feeling for a
husband and wife.
<snip>

Amy J Williams obituary: <Loading Image...>
The Doctor
2025-01-12 12:40:20 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron
Steven Moffat for the character of the 12th Doctor and
that finally killed the series off completely after
Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making both
characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as
Capaldi. Oh, and don't forgery he effectively killed off
Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being
able to rescue Amy and Rory because for some tenuous
reason he couldn't visit NY at the particular time they'd
been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could visit
some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
message to be sent to them, telling them to take a train
to, say, Chicago, where he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they
could have brought some up and explained why they wouldn’t
work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from
going there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is
a retard if he expects us to believe this nonsense because
he's too lazy to write a coherent story.
Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had
suffer a terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor?
They'd say emotional drama!
Post by The True Doctor
Rose trapped in another dimension,
But Rose is with [a version of] the man she loves isn't she?
Plus she has her Mum and alternate universe Dad with her... so
hardly a terrible fate.
Post by The True Doctor
Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son,
You forgot "hot"... (It seems some people found Rose Noble hot.)
Post by The True Doctor
Amy and Rory trapped in the past,
But together. So again, not that terrible. If the world has to
end, I'm sure being together is a very comforting feeling for a
husband and wife.
<snip>
Amy J Williams obituary: <https://i.imgur.com/H4aG24S.jpeg>
Moffat for you.
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2025-01-12 23:10:13 UTC
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Please send Big Finish an e-mail and tell them that! Alex
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Why the fuck are you Doctor Who mewsgroup regulars setting followups to
troll rec.arts.tv? Stay the hell out of Usenet for normal users.
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
What's stopping some other time traveller like River Song from going
there and bringing them back. Nothing! Steven Moffat is a retard if he
expects us to believe this nonsense because he's too lazy to write a
coherent story.
point well taken.
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Is there a single companion that these degenerates haven't had suffer a
terrible fate as a result of being with the Doctor? Rose trapped in
another dimension, Donna having her memory erased and giving birth to a
mentally handicapped son, Amy and Rory trapped in the past, Clara dead,
Bill dead, River Song dead. That just leaves Martha and Captain Jack.
:-(
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2025-01-11 19:45:27 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
That would violate Einstein's theory of relativity where time travel
into the futures is relatively easy and happens all the time. A little
bit of time dilation would have seen Amy and Rory travel back to the
future in almost no time at all.
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The Doctor
2025-01-12 04:14:37 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
That would violate Einstein's theory of relativity where time travel
into the futures is relatively easy and happens all the time. A little
bit of time dilation would have seen Amy and Rory travel back to the
future in almost no time at all.
got you on relativity.
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I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No. The tenth Doctor and Martha were shifted to 1969 by the
Angels but they were still able to time travel once they were
reunited with the TARDIS.
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2025-01-12 04:15:03 UTC
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I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No. The tenth Doctor and Martha were shifted to 1969 by the
Angels but they were still able to time travel once they were
reunited with the TARDIS.
Good point.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
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2025-01-12 00:34:24 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
This is from Wikipedia:

The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.

Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.

The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
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2025-01-12 04:17:09 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
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2025-01-12 04:45:51 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
I have no idea if you can tell the author of a Wikipedia article or not
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
I have no idea if you can tell the author of a Wikipedia article or not
Sounds like someone took a large dose of handwavium before writing that
script.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
I have no idea if you can tell the author of a Wikipedia article or not
Sounds like someone took a large dose of handwavium before writing that
script.
Yes, since the paradox has them die, either way, how much worse can he make
it?
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron
Steven Moffat
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for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed
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off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing
after making
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both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able
to rescue
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NY at the
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particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold
weather. He could
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visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
message to
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be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could
have brought
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some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor
couldn’t go to.
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Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
I have no idea if you can tell the author of a Wikipedia article or not
Sounds like someone took a large dose of handwavium before writing that
script.
Yes, since the paradox has them die, either way, how much worse can he make
it?
Chibnall is even the worse of tthe lot!
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the series
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off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able
to rescue
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particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather.
He could
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visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could
have brought
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some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor
couldn’t go to.
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Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
I have no idea if you can tell the author of a Wikipedia article or not
Sounds like someone took a large dose of handwavium before writing that
script.
Sure sounds like it.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could
have brought
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some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
The Weeping Angel collector Grayle captures River and Rory. He locks Rory
in the cellar with several cherub Weeping Angels, while he has a Weeping
Angel grab River by the wrist while he interrogates her. River is able to
use her vortex manipulator to allow the TARDIS to arrive. Amy, knowing
River wrote the book to help them, uses it to look for Rory. River breaks
her wrist to free herself. Amy finds the cellar empty and the Doctor
locates Rory at an apartment building nearby.
Rory enters an apartment with an elderly version of himself in bed, who
dies without having seen Amy for many years. The Doctor deduces that the
Weeping Angels have been using the building as a battery farm, sending the
victims to their past while feeding off their time energy. Rory and Amy
refuse to accept their fate and flee to the roof. Amy and Rory jump off the
roof, creating a paradox that destroys the building and the Weeping Angels.
The Doctor, River, Amy and Rory find themselves near the TARDIS in a
graveyard in 2012. Rory catches sight of a gravestone with his name on it.
He is then sent into the past by a Weeping Angel who had survived the
paradox. The Doctor is unable to go back to get him, due to the paradox.
Despite the Doctor urging her not to do so, Amy allows herself to be
touched by the Weeping Angel in the hope of being with Rory. Her name then
appears along with Rory's on the gravestone.
Who wrote that?
I have no idea if you can tell the author of a Wikipedia article or not
could be Chibnall.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
SP?
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2025-01-12 09:42:07 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect
that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be
found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.

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2025-01-12 12:11:50 UTC
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
 No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect
that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be
found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
[Least relevant ng trimmed]
Moern Doctor Who seems to have adopted a sort of "probability collapse"
model for time travel (except when the writers break their rules).
Events are changeable, but become fixed for a specific observer once
they are observed by that observer. (In addition to the "fixed points in
time" that Time Lords perceive in some unexplained manner and are
immutable - except when the writers choose to break their rules ["The
Fires of Pompeii"]).

In this case, once the Doctor had seen Amy and Rory's names on
gravestones, their lifetimes were set. So although the Doctor COULD
technically visit them again, he couldn't imperil them or take them off
though time and space, for fear of unravelling the Web of Time.

That's as close to a "reasonable" explanation as I can come up with.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
 No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect
that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be
found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
[Least relevant ng trimmed]
Moern Doctor Who seems to have adopted a sort of "probability collapse"
model for time travel (except when the writers break their rules).
Events are changeable, but become fixed for a specific observer once
they are observed by that observer. (In addition to the "fixed points in
time" that Time Lords perceive in some unexplained manner and are
immutable - except when the writers choose to break their rules ["The
Fires of Pompeii"]).
In this case, once the Doctor had seen Amy and Rory's names on
gravestones, their lifetimes were set. So although the Doctor COULD
technically visit them again, he couldn't imperil them or take them off
though time and space, for fear of unravelling the Web of Time.
That's as close to a "reasonable" explanation as I can come up with.
Wibbly-Wobbly!
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
 No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect
that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be
found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
[Least relevant ng trimmed]
Moern Doctor Who seems to have adopted a sort of "probability collapse"
model  for time travel (except when the writers break their rules).
Events are changeable, but become fixed for a specific observer once
they are observed by that observer. (In addition to the "fixed points in
time" that Time Lords perceive in some unexplained manner and are
immutable - except when the writers choose to break their rules ["The
Fires of Pompeii"]).
In this case, once the Doctor had seen Amy and Rory's names on
gravestones, their lifetimes were set. So although the Doctor COULD
technically visit them again, he couldn't imperil them or take them off
though time and space, for fear of unravelling the Web of Time.
That's as close to a "reasonable" explanation as I can come up with.
How do they prove their identities to the US authorities? Do they get
deported? They can't prove they're British either. How do they obtain a
Green Card so they can work?

Why couldn't they just have said they wanted to start a family and
no-more sex in the space-time vortex, so the decide to live with Rory's
Dad until they can get a mortgage. Simple. Moffat, Chibnall, and Davies
are all degenerate retards.
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2025-01-14 00:04:28 UTC
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How do they prove their identities to the US authorities? Do they get
deported? They can't prove they're British either. How do they obtain a
Green Card so they can work?
Why couldn't they just have said they wanted to start a family and no-
more sex in the space-time vortex, so the decide to live with Rory's Dad
until they can get a mortgage. Simple. Moffat, Chibnall, and Davies are
all degenerate retards.
They had psychic paper with them? (It's part of the Weeping Angels'
spell that their victims are accepted in the times and places they're
sent to.)
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How do they prove their identities to the US authorities? Do they get
deported? They can't prove they're British either. How do they obtain a
Green Card so they can work?
Why couldn't they just have said they wanted to start a family and no-
more sex in the space-time vortex, so the decide to live with Rory's Dad
until they can get a mortgage. Simple. Moffat, Chibnall, and Davies are
all degenerate retards.
They had psychic paper with them? (It's part of the Weeping Angels'
spell that their victims are accepted in the times and places they're
sent to.)
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect
that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be
found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
Yes.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the
series off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after
making both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and
don't forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
He could have picked them up the following year. You can't just keep
changing the rules as you go along because it suits your story. The
rules have to be consistent throughout. Steven Moffat, Chris Chibnall
and Russel T Davies are infantile retards that write like children and
don't understand the basic rules of writing and story telling.
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the
series off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after
making both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill
Potts killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and
don't forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.
He could have picked them up the following year. You can't just keep
changing the rules as you go along because it suits your story. The
rules have to be consistent throughout. Steven Moffat, Chris Chibnall
and Russel T Davies are infantile retards that write like children and
don't understand the basic rules of writing and story telling.
Key word basic.
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